4šŸ‘‘ā˜ø Cattāri Ariya-saccaṃ 四聖諦

4šŸ‘‘ā˜ø → ā˜‚ļøšŸŒ„ → 8šŸŒ„ → hearing in jhānašŸ‘‚šŸŒ„ , samādhi     šŸ”—šŸ“     ļ»æšŸ”


hearing in jhānašŸ‘‚šŸŒ„ , samādhi

āœ… You can hear sounds in the 4 jhānas, including 'imperturbable' version of 4th jhāna (j4šŸŒ• āneƱja⚔). First three jhāna are 'perturbable' MN 66.
āœ… You can not hear sounds in imperturbable formless (a-rÅ«pa) attainments.
   * Unqualified 'āneƱja ' (imperturbable) is usually referring to these formless attainment's, and not 4th jhāna.
   * These formless states are the 'santi vihara' peaceful meditations referred to in DN 16 where Buddha and his teacher can not hear sounds.
ā›” Tv Ab Kv 18.8 claims that one can not hear sounds in the four jhānas. First of all, this text is relatively new and not everyone agrees it's canonical. Second, they use fallacious and circular reasoning.


 hearing in jhānašŸ‘‚šŸŒ„ 1 – You can hear sounds in the 4 jhānas. Which samādhis are silent?
hearing in jhānašŸ‘‚šŸŒ„ 2 – hearing in the four jhānas explicit in these suttas
hearing in jhānašŸ‘‚šŸŒ„ 3 - These are the only suttas showing no hearing being possible
hearing in jhānašŸ‘‚šŸŒ„ 4 – Analysis of relevant sutta references (alphabetical)
hearing in jhānašŸ‘‚šŸŒ„ 5 – Hearing and thinking while in Jhāna strongly implied
hearing in jhānašŸ‘‚šŸŒ„ 6 – Can you hear sound in imperturbable samādhi?
hearing in jhānašŸ‘‚šŸŒ„ 7 – AN 10.72 sound can be a thorn in all four jhānas
hearing in jhānašŸ‘‚šŸŒ„ 8 – Jhāna vs. VRJ
hearing in jhānašŸ‘‚šŸŒ„ 9 – Silence Isn’t Mandatory
hearing in jhānašŸ‘‚šŸŒ„ 10 – Misc.
hearing in jhānašŸ‘‚šŸŒ„ 100 – commentary
hearing in jhānašŸ‘‚šŸŒ„ 999 – Bookmarks of interest
    hearing in jhānašŸ‘‚šŸŒ„ 999.9 – TOC permalinks

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